17
Aug
10

Freedom of Religion

Ok, Olbermann’s rant is not as nuanced as Mayor Bloomberg’s speech and he certainly doesn’t have the moderate credibility of the Mayor. The Daily Show coverage is wonderful – humor and satire is powerful.

But, bottom line is this. Build the damn thing! Jesus!

Or, well, maybe Alla?  See, in this country you can use any religious or mythological figure as an exclamation if you want.  Yes, you might offend someone, but you have that RIGHT – and that right can actually lead to intellectual conversations and understanding of others.

Tolerance.

Isn’t that want this was suppose to be about?

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.”

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3 Responses to “Freedom of Religion”


  1. August 17, 2010 at 1:37 pm

    But which groups have earned the privilege of such tolerance? It’s obviously not a right since it’s not applied equally and to all groups?

    Think that there wouldn’t be an outcry against some Christian churches being built to near an abortion clinic? Hell, that might not even be legal in some states anymore?

    Think there would be utter chaos if Westboro Baptist tried to open a facility in NYC’s West Village or Chelsea neighborhoods?

    Think for a single moment that it wouldn’t be the same people siding with the Muslims who would lead the charge against the churches in the above theoretical exercises?

    …And a last question, which applies to both opponents and proponents of the “Ground Zero Mosque,” does the “freedom of religion” argument or the “trophy mosque” argument hold true for- and apply to a 13-story building of only 2 floors are to be set aside for even part-time religious use?

    • 2 badphonekarmagirl
      August 18, 2010 at 4:48 pm

      Are you kidding? ALL GROUPS have earned the privilege. That’s one of the basic principles, the very CORE, of this country. Hell, it is WHY this country works. (It is also why it is so damn hard for us to understand some other cultures – really? does anyone in the US really get why Catholics and Protestants would fight or why Sunni and Shia are still arguing of a pastoral succession issue centuries later?)

      Let’s just make this perfectly clear. It is not a zero sum game, dear. You can have churches next to abortion clinics. You can have mosques next to synagogues and everyone can get along – THAT IS AMERICA. What is not America is people freaking out over religion.

  2. 3 jon
    August 18, 2010 at 5:13 pm

    Jonolan,
    Your “reasoning” is what’s wrong with America. We have established, you and I, that they have the legal right to build the mosque, haven’t we? I mean, if the law is the final authority. If religion is your final authority then what is your religion? The 5 major religions of the world all share the philosophy of kindness and tolerance for one another. I can’t speak of your opinion there because I don’t know it but I assure you, not all muslims are to be hated as radicals. Not all christians are crazy, wacked out fundamentalists either, by the way.
    Building the mosque at ground zero would absolutely prove our acceptance of that fact and be a great way to reach out to muslims worldwide. What’s the downside you see? As for the questions you raised about abortion clinics and opening churches in obviously “non-church” neighborhoods, those have nothing to do with this conversation – other than to point out that intolerance is everywhere. See? We agree on something.
    If you go through life espousing hate…for anyone or any group…then you will never be happy. The hate needs to stop. Nobody wants to build a mosque just to make you mad.


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